Wow!! Thank you so much for all of that info, I appreciate it! It's for this reason why I used to use smartphones via USB OTG with my reference rig, but now I just hook up a DAP line out into the Cantate.2 then use HiBy Link to control it from the smartphone. If you're using a computer, changing your case, case fans, CPU cooler, and graphics card cooler (or from a noisy gaming laptop to a desktop, but good luck with graphics cards right now) might do as much to help you hear the bass as a starting point before upgrading any of the actual audio gear. Note though that the low noise of Meier amps will not help you hear more bass if ambient noise is a problem, like how at headphone meets pre-pandemic people tend to hear my Cantate.2 sounding lean and that's what it sounds like there with people talking. Note: the regular Jazz is NOT a good idea for what you're looking for as by all accounts it seems to sound more like Schiit reference whereas the FF has a bit more of that fast punchy sound. But if you're looking for "punch" and rhythm the Rock FF and Jazz FF are good options. If you can sell those amps and then add a bit more the Meier Jazz FF is one option. That has a tendency to round out a bit of the nastier stuff in the higher frequencies but it's not a cheap solution to providing a lot of voltage with very low noise to a 300ohm headphone amp as an OTL does. HD6XX with an OTL tube amp if you're not planning on using any low impedance headphone but if you can't easily return or just borrow an OTL amp this can be a problem in case it's still not what you're looking for.Īlso those amps you have are hybrid amps, not tube amps. That's why lower range Focal speakers tend to be thought of as "musical" but some planar headphones sound sterile in all but the most quiet room to a guy that doesn't expect things to be close to how speakers sound like. In short the HE400i has a more accurate bass reproduction but ambient noise makes them harder to hear, and being headphones, being objectively accurate also has the handicap of being even farther from how dynamic driver speakers not only have a tendency to also boost that upper bass range, but also have the soundwaves hitting your whole body. Even the AKG K701 that nosedives just below 60hz can sound punchier than an HE400i just by having a stronger 60hz to 90hz response, ditto Grados, more so with any ambient noise involved. When it comes to perception though this creates a problem of having the HE400i not having any "punch" compared to dynamic drivers (including speakers) that boost 60hz to 120hz. The response curve from doesn't nose dive as early, ie the -3dB point is set lower than where most good dynamic headphones' -3dB point would be. These actually have a lot of bass extension. I just don't know and can't listen to the darn things first I have to believe there's something out there. But if I'm wasting money on another $300 pair.then I'll just wait. Or am I going to need to start saving for things in the $900-1100 range? Ie. Is there a go to obvious choice here to pair with a tube amp? I love tube amps, I have two others but the Loxjie P20 is better than the Bravo V2 and Little Dot I+ I have. I have a fiio BTR5, a Loxjie P20 amp and the Schiit Modius DAC (just replaced my ODAC with that one). I backed those new HarmonicDyne Poseidons but I'm getting worried those won't get me what I'm after. I imagine it's always a slight trade off. What would be an upgrade and provide more bass slam without being Beats? I don't want things to be overdone necessarily and sacrifice other things to the best extent possible I guess. Meze Classics 99 - love these too as they are more playful than the Hifimans. Hifiman HE-400i - love these but not enough bass extension and sub bass. Mostly uncomfortable headband pushed me away from these. It's hard to describe what I'm looking for too.Īudio Technica MSR7 - too bright, but darn accurate. It's hard to buy headphones without listening to them. If I had to sacrifice, I'd opt to roll off the high end before muddying the mid range. I don't consider myself a bass head, I don't like losing detail elsewhere. I'm lacking something with a bit of punch and bass. I keep getting headphones in this range and would love to stay in this range. I have a few headphones, all of which are mostly under or around $300 range.
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